God's Thumb...Propose a different solution.

11/18/2015

God's Thumb...Propose a different solution.

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After watching the video, try to come up with two new ideas:

1. What could be done differently to maximize Stanley and Zero's chances of surviving their ascent of God's Thumb?

2. What evidence can you present that supports the fact that their ascent will lift the curse placed on Stanley's family?

CHALLENGE ***EXTRA CREDIT*** Can you propose an alternative to them climbing the thumb? It must, in a different way, be able to lift the curse placed on Stanley's family (the curse from his grandfather). GET CREATIVE!

WRITE IN COMPLETE SENTENCES, AND USING PROPER GRAMMAR/PUNCTUATION. USE YOUR FIRST NAME.

49 Comments

Colin

11/18/2015 15:19:41

I think Stanley could have made a shelter for shade when gods thumb wasn't giving them shade. That would help Zero survive and not overheat in the hot sun.
Stanley carried Zero up the mountain so he can drink the water to get stronger. Since Stanley is a Yelnats and Zero is a Zeroni then it will lift the curse.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 07:54:19

Some shade would definitely help them. Nice point, Colin! Tell me, why will the curse be lifted just because they are related?

Colin

11/19/2015 10:38:38

Stanley carried Zero up the mountain like his great great grandfather was supposed to carry Madame Zeroni up the mountain. Since Stanley is related to his great great grandfather and Zero is related to Madame Zeroni then that might lift the curse because it is almost the same thing.

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:26:14

Those were really good inferences and you said some things I never even thought about before.

Alex

11/18/2015 15:26:15

One thing to maximize Stanley and Zeros ascent is saving sploosh so they would have more energy to climb the mountain. Another thing to maximize the ascent is bringing group D so Stanley wouldn't have to carry Zero alone. The evidence I can present is Stanley carried Zero and sung while he drank. That is what Stanley's great great grandfather had to do for madam Zeroni and Zero is related to her.Those are things to maximize Stanley and Zeros ascent and evidence that proves the curse will be lifted after the ascent.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 07:55:26

Great language, Alex! I love how you used the phrase, "The evidence I can present..."

Derek

11/19/2015 10:46:57

Great job. I never even thought about bringing another group.

Alexa

11/18/2015 15:43:43

1. I think Stanley could’ve tried to make zero confess or say a phrase to lift the curse without having to go up the mountain. Stanley also could’ve filled up his canteen before leaving after he crashed the water truck. Stanley also could’ve recreated what could’ve happened to get the curse in the first place and the he could reverse it and lift the curse.
2. I think climbing the mountain can lift the spell because Stanley great great grandfather is the person the spell was put on originally and Stanley is his descendant. Madame Zeroni put the curse on Stanley’s great great grandfather and Zero could possibly be one of Madame’s Zeroni’s descendant because they have the same last name. Maybe when Stanley carries Zero up the mountain maybe Zero must say a phrase to lift the curse. Also at one point in the book Zero says he stole Clyde Livingston’s shoes and that’s what got Stanley into Camp green lake in the first place and that’s basically his curse.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 07:56:13

Alexa,
These are some very insightful inferences. Nice Job!

Nina D

11/18/2015 16:10:47

I think Stanley and Zero could have not eaten the muck so Zero would not be sick. Now that Stanley is carring zero up the mountain the curse of the family having bad luck could be broken because Zero might be related to madam Zeronie.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 07:57:05

Nice job, Nina!

How did you know the muck made him sick?

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:28:35

I also think that this will lift the curse as well.

Nina D

11/19/2015 10:55:13

I think that Zero got sick from the muck because it could have had bad germs because it was old.

Nate

11/18/2015 16:57:03

1. Stanley and Zero could both help carry the water an onions. They could also sleep for a while and not be active for a few days to maximize the chances of surviving.

2. Stanley's great-great Grandfather was supposed to carry Madame Zeroni up the mountain to drink the water on top and sing her a song while she does. Stanley brought Hector Zeroni up the mountain and sang him a similar song and let him drink the water.

3. I think another way to lift the curse off Stanley's family would be if he helped Zero and helped him get out of Camp Green Lake. I also think that if Zero and Stanley help each other, Zero would realize Stanley's family had the curse, and he would take the curse off and put it on the warden.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 07:58:08

Nate,

Nice job taking on the challenge question! So creative!

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:23:16

I never thought about how Stanley sang the song to Zero.

Rose

11/19/2015 10:41:39

Me neither.

Colin

11/19/2015 10:39:33

I never thought of that.

amanda

11/18/2015 17:14:54

1. I think that if Zero hadn't drank the sploosh he wouldn't have kept collapsing and they might have gotten further up he mountain and found water to drink.

2. If Stanley makes it all the way to the top of God's Thumb, it could fix the curse because Stanley's great, great, grandfather never carried madam Zeroni up the mountain on the last day. So if Stanley does it he could find water and it could possibly fix the curse.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 07:59:19

Nice post, Amanda!

How do you know the sploosh made him sick?

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:29:51

I think the same thing could happen! I never even mentioned anything about the sploosh though.

Jamie

11/18/2015 18:14:40

One thing that could have been done differently to maximize Stanley and Zero's chances of surviving their ascent of God's thumb is that they could have filled their canteens with water before leaving camp Green Lake. Also they could have brought some food from the breakfast room so that they wouldn't starve. I think that they should have planned more thoughtfully before running off into the dessert.
Their ascent on God's thumb will lift the curse on Stanley's family. I know this because a long time ago in the book Stanley's no-good-dirty-rotten-pig-stealing great great grandfather was told to walk a pig up that moutain everyday. But on the last day he had to take Madame Zeroni up the mountain and have her drink from the stream on the top of the hill to make her strong. Stanley's great great grandfather did not take Madame Zeroni up the hill on the last day so he and all of his descendants were cursed. I think that when Stanley ( Realated to his great great grandfather) carried Hector Zeroni ( Zero who I think is realated to Madame Zeroni because of their last names ) up the mountain he lifted his family curse. Also I think that Hector Zeroni is realated to Madame Zeroni so it still worked when Stanley carried Zero up the mountain.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 08:00:47

Jamie,

Your inferences are spot on and your organization/grammar is fantastic. This is MVP work!

Makenna

11/19/2015 11:07:49

Jamie I loved all the detail you put in your answer .

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:30:57

Jamie I think your post is great and it has a lot of evidence to support your inference.

Aurora

11/18/2015 19:14:24

Stanley could have filled his water before he left the truck. Zero or Hector is a descendent of Madam Zeroni, so since Stanley is a descendent of the original Stanley Yelnats, then carrying Hector Zeroni up the mountain will lift the curse.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 08:01:37

Nice Inference, Aurora!

Can you support it with a little more evidence?

Aurora

11/19/2015 10:49:04

That is what the orignal Stanley Yelnats had to do but didn't.

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:32:13

I thought of almost the same thing!

Julianne

11/18/2015 20:49:34

One thing that could have been done differently to maximize Stanley and Zero's chances of surviving their ascent of God's Thumb was the way Zero pulled Stanley up the cliff ledge with a shovel. Zero should have grabbed the handle of the shovel instead of the blade, because he got deep cuts on both of his hands. Another thing that would maximize their chance of surviving if it was done differently was that Stanley ran away from the water truck without getting water. If he did get water, he could give it to Zero to make him stronger. Some evidence that shows their ascent will lift the curse placed on Stanley's family was that Stanley carried Zero up the mountain. We can infer that Zero was related to Mademe Zeroni, so it would be like Stanley's great grandfather carrying her up the mountain. Also,Stanley sang the song that his great grandfather was supposed to sing to her while Zero drank water from the river.

Mr Pestone

11/19/2015 08:02:40

Julianne,

Your inferences are spot on and your writing is well organized. Awesome job!

Alexa

11/19/2015 10:34:00

Jan this was amazing. It has great evidence to support your inference and it gets your point across.

Rose

11/19/2015 10:38:25

Stanley and Zero could have tried to eat some of the roots of some of the plants on the mountain side. They could also have saved some sploosh for more food. Stanley remembers Madam Zeroni saying that his Great-great-grandfather or one of Stanley's family carrying a Zeroni up the side of the mountain would lift the curse that was on Stanley's family, he could have gone a little way up, with Zero on his back, and dug some water up and gave it to Zero.

Derek

11/19/2015 10:44:36

Stanley and Hector could have found a small creek for water to drink or enough supplies to make a fire for light so they could spend the night before they climbed the thumb. Hector and the fortuneteller both have the same last name so they are probably related. This leads me to believe that when Stanley's grandfather did not carry the fortuneteller up the hill and the curse was put on Stanley's family, relatives could still be carried up the hill to release the curse. So if Stanley carries Hector up the hill and sings the song to him the curse will probably lift off Stanley's family.

Ryan Brooks

11/19/2015 10:49:10

I think Stanley will lift the curse on his family. I think he will because he carried Zero up Gods Thumb. When Madam Zeroni was talking to Stanley's No good, dirty, rotten, pig stealing Great grandfather. Madam Zeroni said to Stanley's Great grandfather that after he climbs to the top of Gods Thumb, he has to climb back down, put Madam Zeroni on his back and then carry Madam Zeroni back up Gods Thumb. Since Zero and Madam Zeroni have the same last name I think they're related. So all Stanley has to do is carry Zero up Gods Thumb so he can lift the curse on his family!

Anna

11/19/2015 10:54:42

I think that Stanley and Zero should have slept, and in the morning Stanley could have brought Zero up the hill with energy instead of a little energy.
I know that if Stanley carries Zero up the Big Thumb the curse will brake because Stanley's grandfather was supposed to carry Madame Zeroni up the hill. So if Stanley carries Zero up the hill the curse will be lifted.
Instead of climbing up the Big Thumb Stanley could find someone who is related to Myra Menke and propose to her on her fifteenth birthday. If she says yes maybe the curse will brake.

Ryan Brooks

11/19/2015 10:55:25

On the journey up Gods Thumb, Stanley and Zero could have done a lot of things differently so survival would be easier. I think that Stanley should have carried Zero up Gods Thumb before Zero passed out. If Stanley carried Zero up Gods Thumb before Zero passed out, than Zero could have rested and would be able to walk by himself, so him and Stanley could have looked for clues for survival.

Aidan

11/19/2015 11:00:17

One thing that the book could have been different is Stanley could have built a fire to cook the onions and get the bacteria out of the water.I know the curse will be lifted because Stanley's great great grandfather did not to carry Madam Zeroni up the mountain the last day and sing to her as she drank. The curse will now be lifted because Stanley carried Hector Zeroni up the mountain and sang to him as he drank. He did what his great great grandfather should have done

Makenna

11/19/2015 11:04:33

1. I think Stanley should refilled his canteen before he set off into his journey. In addition Stanley could of made shelters when they stopped for a break. That would of helped with energy.

2. I think if Stanley carries Zero up Gods Thumb it will lift the curse . Zero is related too Madame Zeroni who put the curse on Stanley's grand father. So if he carries Zero it could lift the curse.

Colin

11/19/2015 11:05:03

I think another way to lift the curse on Stanley's family is if Stanley teaches Zero how to read and write with nothing in return. Since Stanley is related to his great great grandfather and Zero is related to Madame Zeroni that might lift the curse. Stanley is helping Zero get stronger in reading and writing like his great great grandfather was supposed to help Madame Zeroni get stronger.That is another way that might lift the curse on Stanley's family.

Allison

11/19/2015 11:05:47

I think if Stanley brought water it would be an easier ascent. I think this because people need water to live and Zero and Stanley hadn't had water in who knows when. My evidence that carrying Zero up God's Thumb will lift the curse is that Madam Zeroni wanted Great Grandpa to carry her up God's Thumb. Great Grandpa failed to do so.

Jack

11/19/2015 11:07:30

1. A thing that could have been done differently was that Stanley could have filled his canteen before he ran away. Also he could have not brought the unbroken bottles of sploosh because that weighed them down.
2.Zero's last name is Zeroni and Stanley's grandfather was the one who was suppose to carry madam Zeroni up the mountain. So if Stanley carries Zero up the mountain if will be the same thing except with descendants of them and the curse should be lifted. Stanley carried Zero up the mountain so the curse should be lifted.

Heidi

11/19/2015 11:08:21

I think Zero and Stanley could have brought some food from camp green lake before they left. Stanley could have also ran away when his canteen was filled, that way he would have some water. Since Stanley's last name is yelnats,Zero's last name is zeroni,and Madame's last name is zeroni,I think it will lift the curse. I think this is going to lift the curse because Stanley's great-great grandfather was suppose to bring Madame Zeroni up the mountain,along time ago.

James

11/19/2015 11:09:11

Stanley and Zero could have brought some sploosh so when they were climbing gods thumb they would have something to drink. I think that would work because they both needed some sort of energy while climbing. Stanley could have also put his sack over their heads so they could have some shade. The evidence I can use to prove that Stanley and Zero would lift the curse is when they reached the top Stanley sang to Zero while drinking from the meadow. Stanley's great great grandfather was supposed to do that to Maddem Zeroni and sign to her while drinking from the river. So, I think that since Stanley sang while Zero was drinking from the meadow the curse would lift.

Sophia

11/19/2015 11:09:27

1. One thing that could of been done differently to maximize Stanley and Zero's chance of surviving may of been saving their sploosh so they would have some food for their ascent. Also when Stanley ran away, he could of stole one of the boys filled canteens so that Zero and Stanley could also have water for the great climb. That's what Stanley and Zero could of done differently to maximize their chances of survival.

2. Their ascent on gods thumb will lift the curse of the Yelnats family. Evidence that proves this is that Zero is related to madam Zeroni and Stanley carried him up the mountain . The curse was also lifted because he was lucky enough to find refuge on the mountain. That's why the curse on the Yelnats family will be lifted.

Christopher

11/19/2015 11:13:07

1.I think that Stanley could of took more materials, so on their accent to the "Gods Thumb" and they would of been able to make a shelter. Stanley could of also wait to get his water from the truck before getting in the truck to go to the mountain. I know this because Stanley could of grabbed a sack, and filled it with wood and etc, then go find Zero and go to the mountain. Also Stanley could of waited to get water from the truck because he was in line.

2. I think that by carrying Hector Zeroni (Zero) up the mountain, it will break the curse.I think this because, this is what Stanley's great-great grandfather had to do to Madem Zeroni. By not carrying Madem Zeroni up the mountain, a curse was put on him and all of his desendants. So, from Stanley carrying Hector Zeroni (Zero) up the mountain, I think that the curse will be broken, and Stanley will have good luck again.

Rebecca

11/19/2015 11:14:25

Something that could have been done differently to maximize their chances of living is that Stanley could have gotten water before he made a run for it Also Zero could have not eaten the sploosh and then he would not keep falling down.The evidence that supports the fact that their ascent will lift the curse placed on Stanley's family is that Stanley's great grandfather found refuge there.Also in the book it said there was water up there and that makes him lucky for finding something that will help him live.Stanley's great great grandfather was told to do something for madam Zeroni but he didn't and that is how the curse was put on his family.So if Stanley does something different to help madam Zeroni's ancestors the curse might be lifted.He could help Zero because he has the same last name as madam Zeroni, so that means he might be an ancestor.

Eva

11/19/2015 11:14:33

One thing that could've been done differently to maximize Stanley and Zero's chances of surviving their ascent of God's thumb is if Stanley had gone back to the truck and got water for Zero and him. Another thing that could've been done is if Stanley let Zero rest before they climbed up the mountain.

I think the curse will be lifted because Zero has the same last name as Madam Zeroni. Stanleys great great grandfather got a curse from Madam Zeroni because he didn't lift her up the mountain to the stream. Stanley Yelnats like his grandfather and Zero is a Zeroni.

kieran

11/19/2015 11:23:01

1.What could be done differently to maximize Stanley and Zero's chances of survival is that Stanley and Zero should take more breaks to preserve energy for their climb. Also,they should devote more time to digging for water.
2.The evidence I can present that their ascent will lift the curse placed on Stanley's family is that Stanley and Zero are two blood relatives of Elya Yelnats and Madame Zeroni. So, if Elya was cursed because he didn’t do the favor Madame Zeroni asked him to do. However,if Stanley did this favor,(which would be carrying Zero up a mountain and singing him a special song)then Stanley’s family would be relieved of the curse.

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